They are out there. Last night, I picked up a 65" VT30 with 3300 hours for a good price off of CL. It has a minor issue, but it should be a fairly easy fix, helped on getting the price down too. Check the classifieds here, there are some killer deals. CL and eBay are good options too. The hardest part is finding one close enough to you to pick up for the right price. Shipping a big, ridiculously heavy plasma TV is expensive and risky. Most private sellers don't want to deal with packaging and preparing them for it and most have thrown away the original box/packing too which makes it worse for transport. Personally, I would stick with a Panasonic (ST/VT/ZT 30, 50, or 60 series) or Samsung plasma as they tend to be rated the best. Usually, the newer the better. You might get lucky and score a Pioneer Kuro too. Good luck!