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Best DSP for plate amps?

I have two ported subs with TC Sounds 15" drivers in them and Yung 500 watt plate amps in them. I'm looking for a DSP device that has an EQ and Q control. Anyone have some suggestions for this?

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I have two ported subs with TC Sounds 15" drivers in them and Yung 500 watt plate amps in them. I'm looking for a DSP device that has an EQ and Q control. Anyone have some suggestions for this?
Besides Minidsp?
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MiniDSP 2x4 HD. (not the standard) is going to be hard to top if not impossible to top anywhere near it's price point. The fact that it can align and eq 4 sub locations doesn't hurt either.
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Brands off the top of my head you should look at to see if one fits the bill:

MiniDSP
Velodyne SMS-1
Antimode 8033

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Brands off the top of my head you should look at to see if one fits the bill:

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Antimode 8033
Not sure I'd put those in the same category. The velodyne and Antimode are simple auto room correction that wouldn't really be any better than Audyssey sub eq . None of which can align multiple subs for multiple seats nor confirm sub placement before alignment begins which is all done during an alignment using minidsp. They pale in comparison to what can be accomplished with minidsp in capable hands. Kinda like a Ferrari vs two bicycles.
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Not sure I'd put those in the same category. The velodyne and Antimode are simple auto room correction that wouldn't really be any better than Audyssey sub eq . None of which can align multiple subs for multiple seats nor confirm sub placement before alignment begins which is all done during an alignment using minidsp. They pale in comparison to what can be accomplished with minidsp in capable hands. Kinda like a Ferrari vs two bicycles.
Never said they were all in the same league, or any better/worse than Audyssey SubEQ, just that they were all options given what the OP specifically asked.

I could have sworn all three allow you to connect more than one sub, and aligning subs independently is only an issue if they are not equidistant to the main LP (and OP hasn't stated anything one way or the other).

Also OP hasn't stated if he has Sub EQ in his AVR. Depending on Brand he may not even have Audyssey at all.

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Brands off the top of my head you should look at to see if one fits the bill:

MiniDSP
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Antimode 8033
I'm specifically looking for Q control, do you guys know if these support this?

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Never said they were all in the same league, or any better/worse than Audyssey SubEQ, just that they were all options given what the OP specifically asked.

I could have sworn all three allow you to connect more than one sub, and aligning subs independently is only an issue if they are not equidistant to the main LP (and OP hasn't stated anything one way or the other).

Also OP hasn't stated if he has Sub EQ in his AVR. Depending on Brand he may not even have Audyssey at all.
He didn't say auto DSP so I wasn't thinking room correction programs and he also asked for EQ and Q control which the anti mode has none and the Velodyne is very limited on.

The standard anti mode only has one sub input. They do have a version for stereo that can do two inputs. the Velodyne is much better as it allows you to see the response and has some manual correction capabilities. Neither of them aligns for anything but one seat (during the 1rst measurement) so adjacent seats are left a mystery and they sometimes fail at aligning the 1rst measured position so confirmation is needed.

Equidistant does not mean the phase doesn't need adjusted. The only time no delay is needed is if the room and setup is perfectly symmetrical like a sub at 1/4 and 3/4 along the front wall with no large furniture or doorways next to one or anywhere near one and not the other. That would be the only time you're almost guaranteed to not need delay adjustments between subs. Being the same distance means nothing if the above isn't true as subs are Modal and are pressuring the room so room interaction controls the response.

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I'm specifically looking for Q control, do you guys know if these support this?
MiniDSP HD 2x4.

It does anything you could ever need and more with full control of frequency filters Q, Gain and delay between channels. Do not get the standard 2x4 as it's limited by 7ms of delay and the resolution isn't nearly as good as the 2x4 HD.

You can actually use REW and after you've aligned them using phase you'll take a combined raw response. In REW hit the EQ tab. Create a target to any curve you want and REW will give you a filter file to load directly into the MiniDSP HD and you're done. You can tweak if needed but if done right the response will be very very tight to the target and need no tweaking. It's almost like auto EQ. You can measure, create a target and load it into the minidsp ouputs in less than 5 minutes.

Here's 2 responses of my 2 most used seats. This is nothing more than an REW filter file to hit my house curve target. It's +/- 1.5db or so.

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MiniDSP HD 2x4.

Damn good looking response! Do you have room treatments implemented? If I had a do over, I'd definitely get the HD over the regular.


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Damn good looking response! Do you have room treatments implemented? If I had a do over, I'd definitely get the HD over the regular.


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Thanks and yes I'm controlling reflections yes but I assume you're asking about bass traps and I don't have any bass traps. If you use multiple subs you can fix the modal issues in the sub regions .. bass traps aren't very effective that low anyways unless you're talking huge riser traps etc. For the modal area Above the subs room mode calculators will save you however if you're forced to sit in a mode above the subs bass traps are a useful tool. That's why you rarely see them in professionally designed rooms as they're only needed when you can't do the above.

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