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I think you would be impressed with the sound quality of the HTM-10. We compared them head to head with the Fusion-10's and the HTM's sounded a lot better with music. Crystal clear, arm hair raising good. The tri-trix is a decent entry level speaker but no where near the sound quality of the HTM-10's. Tri-trix would have better bass, but that's it. Voices from the HTM's are top notch, absolutely crystal clear and accurate sounding.
Man, I own fusion 10's, dont tell me that! How did they compare with movies? lol.
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Man, I own fusion 10's, dont tell me that! How did they compare with movies? lol.
Always something better! I think it's much harder to tell a difference between the two with movies. If you listen to a lot of music, then there's a pretty big difference between the two.
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ask me how I know.

how about a motivational pic or 2?

in my 10 x 10 mancave, the HTM6's at about 7 feet and maybe 60" C2C for the moderately toed in horns,

I could do DSU 5.2.4 or Neo 5.2.2 and ATMOS -but
for most legacy stereo the 6's are (to my ears and room treatments ) utterly fabulous,

in a larger room the HTM12 couldn't probably be anything less . .

that pic is the 6's but I redid the stands to add 5.5 inches closer to ear level, , (when "wreckdcreationally slouched)
I had to downsize recently as well and went from HTM-10's to the HTM-6's. The 6's are definitely a step down from the 10's in the midbass department but the rest of that smooth sound signature is still there. Our local Jax people have a GTG on the 19th and we'll be comparing my HTM-6's to the Fusion-10's. Will be interesting.
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Here's how you put in HTM's

As suggested earlier in this thread; mount the TV to the wall, raise it up a bit. HTM's across the front (these are 12's), tilt the center up a bit. Enjoy.

The bottom of that 75" TV is 33" from the floor. A little higher than what it normally should be but I wanted to accommodate identical LCR speakers. I was worried over nothing; the TV height doesn't bother me or my wife a bit. We don't even notice it.



I could actually lower the TV a bit now as I have the HTM on a riser but there's no need to.
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GTG's can be really great . .

don't forget to report back on that

and try this youtube vid:Sci-Fi Short Film "FTL" presented by DUST
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beautiful . .

that isn't raw 703 panels , is it?

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beautiful . .

that isn't raw 703 panels , is it?
Yeah, unfortunately it is. I was taking REW measurements that weekend and moving panels around. I left them like that for a couple of weeks. I ended up framing those in the corner and wrapping them with the same fabric as the other panels. I really should get a current picture (but stuff changes too much )
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As suggested earlier in this thread; mount the TV to the wall, raise it up a bit. HTM's across the front (these are 12's), tilt the center up a bit. Enjoy.

The bottom of that 75" TV is 33" from the floor. A little higher than what it normally should be but I wanted to accommodate identical LCR speakers. I was worried over nothing; the TV height doesn't bother me or my wife a bit. We don't even notice it.



I could actually lower the TV a bit now as I have the HTM on a riser but there's no need to.

That looks like a strong possibility for me. I am going to show the wife. What subs did you go with? You had room, but did you ever consider using the subs as stands? Is there any huge negative to do that?

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Those are the UM18-22's in the Parts Express 4cuft flatpacks.

Please tell your wife that I've cleaned up the cables and wrapped up those acoustic panels in the corners since I took that picture
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Those are the UM18-22's in the Parts Express 4cuft flatpacks.

Please tell your wife that I've cleaned up the cables and wrapped up those acoustic panels in the corners since I took that picture

No way, I am glad they are there. I don't want her to have a standard of perfection
She always complains about wires.
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You have a lot of responses! What's the biggest thing that can fit? What is the most you can afford? Usually there is a balance somewhere in this X and Y. Get something that lets the left and rights get as close to 30 degrees off of center from the MLP. I thought the Volt soundbar was different and really cool, but not good for panning. The biggest wave guide or going with a tweeter array for a large sound stage would be near the top of my priority list. I like the sound of soft dome tweeters, but the efficiency is not there for HT, unless you use a lot of them in an array. MKtheater in his thread Theater 10.0 has some cool arrays

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Couldn't be happier with our HTM-10s, both for music and HT. We are both in our 50s so no "golden ears" here either. The HTMs are strong without being fatiguing, extremely easy to drive with AVR power, and they envelop you in sound.

Still working on a center as our setup would not support another HTM-10 as such, this is a modified Volt-6 center that I will be replacing with either a similar Volt-8 build, or a Fusion-8 center if they come back.

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Couldn't be happier with our HTM-10s, both for music and HT. We are both in our 50s so no "golden ears" here either. The HTMs are strong without being fatiguing, extremely easy to drive with AVR power, and they envelop you in sound.

Still working on a center as our setup would not support another HTM-10 as such, this is a modified Volt-6 center that I will be replacing with either a similar Volt-8 build, or a Fusion-8 center if they come back.
Looks great. You've got a lot of space in that center cubby above the TV for a center channel. Even another HTM-10 if it's tall enough.
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Looks great. You've got a lot of space in that center cubby above the TV for a center channel. Even another HTM-10 if it's tall enough.
Ha! No, that cubby already has a purpose. I'm a college football nut, this setup is the culmination of years of wishing/planning/building/programming to get it working properly. They aren't going anywhere...




Will soon be purchasing a new flat panel to hang on the wall, that will give us space for a horizontal to match up better with the HTMs.
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Nice setup smcmillan2.

There really isn't anything that replaces the form factor of the fusion 8 center...

Erich tells me he's got everything but the flat pack for them, so I'm in the process of getting one. I think that would keep up with the HTM 10s better than the volt 8. To me the HTM 10 center make the most sense with a AT screen. The real estate under a big TV is gold! That's where the gear goes! (For us poor folk anyway!)

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I email Erich to get his opinion and should be able to make a quick choice. Thanks everyone for the awesome feedback. Honestly I think any of these will end up being great.
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Honestly I think any of these will end up being great.
That is true. You really can't lose.
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Its threads like these that make me wish the 893 was still available. The matching center option was a big plus.
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Couldn't be happier with our HTM-10s, both for music and HT. We are both in our 50s so no "golden ears" here either. The HTMs are strong without being fatiguing, extremely easy to drive with AVR power, and they envelop you in sound.

Still working on a center as our setup would not support another HTM-10 as such, this is a modified Volt-6 center that I will be replacing with either a similar Volt-8 build, or a Fusion-8 center if they come back.
I ran my last setup with just LR HTM-10's spaced about 10ft apart and Volt-10's for surrounds, phantom center. I never felt like I was missing anything without a center channel. I had the LR toed in quite a bit and imaging seemed spot on and voices that should be anchored on screen were dead center. With your LR already being so close together, I wouldn't worry about a center channel. Try it without and see.
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I ran my last setup with just LR HTM-10's spaced about 10ft apart and Volt-10's for surrounds, phantom center. I never felt like I was missing anything without a center channel. I had the LR toed in quite a bit and imaging seemed spot on and voices that should be anchored on screen were dead center. With your LR already being so close together, I wouldn't worry about a center channel. Try it without and see.
I've attempted phantom centers with the previous speakers and the HTMs in this room. As it is our living room I have myriad issues to deal with, including placement, and even with the HTMs as phantom I could only get 1 or 2 of the 4 - 5 seats sounding like it should. The (heavily modified) Volt-6 actually does a good job as a center, especially for voices, across the entire listening area. Looking forward to it's replacement as that should deliver a bit more bass, and I suspect more dispersion.
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There really isn't anything that replaces the form factor of the fusion 8 center...
I agree, to some point. If I had the layout to support another vertical speaker as our center I wouldn't hesitate. But that configuration simply doesn't work with what we're trying to do with the room. I too am working with Erich to try and get my hands on the Fusion-8 center, hopefully that comes to fruition.
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